Censorship Yae/Nae?

[Maverick153]

Censorship Yae/Nae?

Censorship is the suppression of speech or deletion of communicative material which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the government or media organizations as determined by a censor.

What are your thoughts on censorship?
Do you condone monitoring/censoring internet usage of the people you love (for their protection off course)?

For the record : I monitor and censor all communication between my people (employees, family, associates, acquaintances, friends, female partners) and the rest of the world (so I do condone it).


Lets keep this civil, please.

Regards,
Mav.

[RightfullyYours]

here's my thoughts on censorship:

when it is meant to be offensive - nae
when it's just meant to be said as emphasis or in a completely non offensive manner - yae

Here's a scenario of what I would call an okay, and a not okay situation:

Not okay -
*You're a f****** b****!
*This food tastes like s***!

Okay -
*What a f****** joke.
*The f****** thing broke on me.

I think that if not meant in an offensive way, it shouldn't be censored because at that point it has no more meaning than any other words.

[Shalom]

Quite a good topic Mav. I believe that the decision depends on the situation.

[Marina]

Censorship and Monitoring are interesting subjects.
I don't condone spying on people "monitoring" for any purpose! It is just plain wrong, people should be entitled to their privacy!

Censorship... I am in a dilemma, I suppose if the situation calls for it.

[Mandy]

Do you condone monitoring/censoring internet usage of the people you love (for their protection off course)?


Ha!
if the one i love thought i was monitoring/censoring ... well... oh my!

children? yes, there should be monitoring/censoring, at the discretion of the parents and their views/values.

there are rules, laws and ethical criteria that must be maintained. however; opinion, expressed (adhering to the guidelines of the media used) should not be a matter for censor.

monitoring private communications is unethical and can be a bit of a folly... if someone were to tell me i were being monitored, the little devilish part of me would generate/alter communications just for pure sport!

i would not do it... i dont want to know.

smiles,

Mandy

[Darkside]

if the one i love thought i was monitoring/censoring ... well... oh my!

if someone were to tell me i were being monitored, the little devilish part of me would generate/alter communications just for pure sport!

i would not do it... i dont want to know.

smiles,

Mandy

you're a bad girl ;)

[Mandy]

you're a bad girl ;)

hehe... yeah. i am a tiny bit! maybe a pinch...

giggle,
Mandy

[Lover]

my feelings mirror that of Mandys

hehe... yeah. i am a tiny bit! maybe a pinch...

giggle,
Mandy

i can't imagine you with a bad side..... oh! i can :blush: you are so wonderful Mandy

[Maverick153]

Ha!
if the one i love thought i was monitoring/censoring ... well... oh my!

children? yes, there should be monitoring/censoring, at the discretion of the parents and their views/values.

there are rules, laws and ethical criteria that must be maintained. however; opinion, expressed (adhering to the guidelines of the media used) should not be a matter for censor.

monitoring private communications is unethical and can be a bit of a folly... if someone were to tell me i were being monitored, the little devilish part of me would generate/alter communications just for pure sport!

i would not do it... i dont want to know.

smiles,

Mandy

Would you do that to someone you really love? I mean play them?

Regards,
Mav.

[Mandy]

Would you do that to someone you really love? I mean play them?

Regards,
Mav.

do what?
Play? giggle!


i would indeed do as i stated though!

Mandy

[Denise]

you would hurt the man you love because he loves you enough to want to keep you safe? wats with that :dntknw:

[Playboy]

all for it as long as I am the one who is censoring

[Mandy]

you would hurt the man you love because he loves you enough to want to keep you safe? wats with that :dntknw:

Denise... read.

interesting twist of reality though.

Mandy

[Denise]

Denise... read.

interesting twist of reality though.

Mandy

i read Mandy. thanks for saying that again and again :mosking:
after reading, thinking of a response, I typed my response and then i clicked on submit, now you should do the same thing.

to make it more simple,- if he cares enough to make sure that you are safe by infringing your privacy you saying that "the little devilish part of me would generate/alter communications just for pure sport!" seems a to me that you want them to feel bad for caring so much for you

[Anamika]

Censorship is a very sensitive subject but as long as its done by the right people and for the right reasons it is good. The ideal objective should be to live in a world that doesn't need to be censored or monitored but this world is imperfect so I wouldn't object to being protected.

[Mandy]

oh my Denise, are you telling me that someone is doing this? is "monitoring private communications"? because that would be "unethical. it can also be a bit of a folly..." and you are saying that it is someone that loves me? that "he cares enough to make sure that (I am) safe by infringing (my) privacy?

do you really think someone would read your private communications to ensure your safety? i would think it is less altruistic than that.

i would hope that any intelligent being into monitoring communications that are private would expect that some would thwart the attempt at the invasion or, as my choice, set up communications histories that are fiction. furthermore, if i want to alter my communication histories to reflect a bit of fiction, it would seem that it would cause no ill effect to any... unless of course, someone hacked into my computer (quite unethical and definitely no display of love nor concern for safety) and stole (again, no display of love nor safety) the communication records...

i am sure that if i found that this type of monitoring were to be happening, i would know that the person doing it definitely does not love me. my love for this person is not in question, but their love for me would be.

and in the end Denise, no... you still have not gotten it right. i say read (to no avail...) so much due to your penchant for twisting what one says. i can only assume that it is on purpose... and you are just a bully. or it is due to not reading.

[Denise]

oh my Denise, are you telling me that someone is doing this? is "monitoring private communications"? because that would be "unethical. it can also be a bit of a folly..." and you are saying that it is someone that loves me? that "he cares enough to make sure that (I am) safe by infringing (my) privacy?

do you really think someone would read your private communications to ensure your safety? i would think it is less altruistic than that.

i would hope that any intelligent being into monitoring communications that are private would expect that some would thwart the attempt at the invasion or, as my choice, set up communications histories that are fiction. furthermore, if i want to alter my communication histories to reflect a bit of fiction, it would seem that it would cause no ill effect to any... unless of course, someone hacked into my computer (quite unethical and definitely no display of love nor concern for safety) and stole (again, no display of love nor safety) the communication records...

i am sure that if i found that this type of monitoring were to be happening, i would know that the person doing it definitely does not love me. my love for this person is not in question, but their love for me would be.

and in the end Denise, no... you still have not gotten it right. i say read (to no avail...) so much due to your penchant for twisting what one says. i can only assume that it is on purpose... and you are just a bully. or it is due to not reading.

bully... hmmm.... I don't think of myself as a bully
Its my personal view that if you love someone it should be all the way. I wouldn't fault them for wanting to make sure that I don't get hurt.thats my view, I wouldn't mind my communication being intercepted for my good but you see otherwise and you define love otherwise, something with conditions and rules against monitoring and censoring.

[Mandy]

bully... hmmm.... I don't think of myself as a bully
Its my personal view that if you love someone it should be all the way. I wouldn't fault them for wanting to make sure that I don't get hurt.thats my view, I wouldn't mind my communication being intercepted for my good but you see otherwise and you define love otherwise, something with conditions and rules against monitoring and censoring.

it is interesting you equate one with the other.

... and once again you are a bit.... off. it must be the reading thing then.

M~

[Denise]

it is interesting you equate one with the other.

... and once again you are a bit.... off. it must be the reading thing then.

M~

what am i bit off about?

[Marina]

Denise... read.

interesting twist of reality though.

Mandy

* Marina hugs sis ;)

[Mandy]

* Marina hugs sis ;)

sis, you are the best of the very best. everyday i know you makes me admire you more! kind, gentle, and wonderful are just a few traits i see in you that i admire...

me... gathering up all the spare hugs from all over the world... and giving them to sis so that she never has to go even a moment without a hug!
love you dearly!
M~

what am i bit off about?


giggle... too easy.

[Denise]

sis, you are the best of the very best. everyday i know you makes me admire you more! kind, gentle, and wonderful are just a few traits i see in you that i admire...

me... gathering up all the spare hugs from all over the world... and giving them to sis so that she never has to go even a moment without a hug!
love you dearly!
M~




giggle... too easy.

you should consider saying something that makes some sense

[Mandy]

you should consider saying something that makes some sense


again... giggle, too easy!

[Marina]

* Marina tells big sis the she is the best and gives her a hug back, then keep hugging here

You are one of the finest big sis!

[Denise]

again... giggle, too easy!
why do you keep saying that? are you going to make an intelligent response or are you just going to keep making wisecracks?

[Mandy]

* Marina tells big sis the she is the best and gives her a hug back, then keep hugging here

You are one of the finest big sis!


Marina, you bring a smile to my eyes!

M~


why do you keep saying that?

i keep saying that because it is particularly apposite

are you going to make an intelligent response...

i did... did you miss it? (giggle)

... or are you just going to keep making wisecracks?

im multitasking; two birds... as it were!

[Barnacle]

Do you condone monitoring/censoring internet usage of the people you love (for their protection off course)?

For the record : I monitor and censor all communication between my people (employees, family, associates, acquaintances, friends, female partners) and the rest of the world (so I do condone it).

Still in lala land Nimrod ?

Lets pretend for a minute that you are in a position to censor communication between your family, associates, acquaintances, friends, female partners and last but not least employees lmfao :mosking:, or that you do anything more than sit in your room going to different forums at different timezones under different usernames recruiting the less fortunate into your sad mind game..

Do you think they would actually thank you for taking their individual human right to privacy ? under the pretences that it was for their own good..

Censoring communication is what governments do to instill fear in the public, to take away their rights, to make them conform and to make them easier to control all under the pretences that it for their own safety - and this partly could be for their own safety in these times or war and terror...

But how would it possibly help anyone is some delusional, twisted, sitting in his room freak, such as yourself monitored the communications of anyone anywhere?

Oh I forgot, you didnt acutally care for any replies on this thread, you just wanted to put an idea in peoples heads that you could be monitoring them... oh and that you are a powerfull employer :mosking::mosking::mosking::pleasantry:

[Lucas West]

Still in lala land Nimrod ?

Lets pretend for a minute that you are in a position to censor communication between your family, associates, acquaintances, friends, female partners and last but not least employees lmfao :mosking:, or that you do anything more than sit in your room going to different forums at different timezones under different usernames recruiting the less fortunate into your sad mind game..

Do you think they would actually thank you for taking their individual human right to privacy ? under the pretences that it was for their own good..

Censoring communication is what governments do to instill fear in the public, to take away their rights, to make them conform and to make them easier to control all under the pretences that it for their own safety - and this partly could be for their own safety in these times or war and terror...

But how would it possibly help anyone is some delusional, twisted, sitting in his room freak, such as yourself monitored the communications of anyone anywhere?

Oh I forgot, you didnt acutally care for any replies on this thread, you just wanted to put an idea in peoples heads that you could be monitoring them... oh and that you are a powerfull employer :mosking::mosking::mosking::pleasantry:

how's my girl been? :blush:

[Angelus]

Still in lala land Nimrod ?

Lets pretend for a minute that you are in a position to censor communication between your family, associates, acquaintances, friends, female partners and last but not least employees lmfao :mosking:, or that you do anything more than sit in your room going to different forums at different timezones under different usernames recruiting the less fortunate into your sad mind game..

Do you think they would actually thank you for taking their individual human right to privacy ? under the pretences that it was for their own good..

Censoring communication is what governments do to instill fear in the public, to take away their rights, to make them conform and to make them easier to control all under the pretences that it for their own safety - and this partly could be for their own safety in these times or war and terror...

But how would it possibly help anyone is some delusional, twisted, sitting in his room freak, such as yourself monitored the communications of anyone anywhere?

Oh I forgot, you didnt acutally care for any replies on this thread, you just wanted to put an idea in peoples heads that you could be monitoring them... oh and that you are a powerfull employer :mosking::mosking::mosking::pleasantry:

Barnacle,
do you go through cycles of delusion from time to time?
You little nut, you're the one who accused him of hacking your life! forgot the times?

Forum Officials,
What are we to do when he forgets to take the blue pills? :mosking:

[Darkside]

Still in lala land Nimrod ?

Lets pretend for a minute that you are in a position to censor communication between your family, associates, acquaintances, friends, female partners and last but not least employees lmfao :mosking:, or that you do anything more than sit in your room going to different forums at different timezones under different usernames recruiting the less fortunate into your sad mind game..

Do you think they would actually thank you for taking their individual human right to privacy ? under the pretences that it was for their own good..

Censoring communication is what governments do to instill fear in the public, to take away their rights, to make them conform and to make them easier to control all under the pretences that it for their own safety - and this partly could be for their own safety in these times or war and terror...

But how would it possibly help anyone is some delusional, twisted, sitting in his room freak, such as yourself monitored the communications of anyone anywhere?

Oh I forgot, you didnt acutally care for any replies on this thread, you just wanted to put an idea in peoples heads that you could be monitoring them... oh and that you are a powerfull employer :mosking::mosking::mosking::pleasantry:

you like to pretend and then you like to believe the shit you pretend? and then you go ahead and use the info you get from these fantasies? then you get scared of them! and then you act like a little girl.

anyone who doesn't already know that they are being watched is too dumb to even talk to.

Censorship and Monitoring of communication is a fact of life, and as you have experienced- anal rape is done on you by personal choice.

contradicting yourself is a very dumb thing, you first went around telling people that he had your life, hacked in to it, knew your passwords, knew everything you did; now you claim that he is making false claims of that. are you fucking crazy or are you just stupid (you have to choose one)

now and forever go :fuk: yourself

[Barnacle]

ok, lets put it this way...

Censoring all these peoples internet usage is extremely obsessive, posessive, insecure, distrusting, disturbing, morally wrong and is bordering on perverted.

If it true and he does censor... its pathetic.
If he's just pretending to.... its more pathetic.
If you believe it to be true and accept it as "for your own good"... You are pathetic.
If you disagree with any of the above... You are very pathetic.


anyone who doesn't already know that they are being watched is too dumb to even talk to.

Censorship and Monitoring of communication is a fact of life, and as you have experienced- anal rape is done on you by personal choice.

@ Darkside - i choose crazy. Also, thanks for explaining about anal rape to me, tho i would appreciate you keeping your dirty little mind off my asshole when you reply. Oh and i did mention that governments censor, i know its a way of life... perhaps your so "dumb", you missed that.

[Darkside]

ok, lets put it this way...

Censoring all these peoples internet usage is extremely obsessive, posessive, insecure, distrusting, disturbing, morally wrong and is bordering on perverted.

If it true and he does censor... its pathetic.
If he's just pretending to.... its more pathetic.
If you believe it to be true and accept it as "for your own good"... You are pathetic.
If you disagree with any of the above... You are very pathetic.




@ Darkside - i choose crazy. Also, thanks for explaining about anal rape to me, tho i would appreciate you keeping your dirty little mind off my asshole when you reply. Oh and i did mention that governments censor, i know its a way of life... perhaps your so "dumb", you missed that.

so if you are the one who tells people if they are pathetic or not, who is going to tell you that you are a flaming moron?

that has to be me. You are a flaming moron!

[Angelus]

a) can't you just focus on the discussion rather than attack Mav personally?
b) you are a hypocrite because when you temporarily got the power of intelligence, you decided to use it as a parlor trick to shine in front of people
c) you do come across as a flaming moron when you keep pulling the same shit every day

[DavidX]

a) can't you just focus on the discussion rather than attack Mav personally?
b) you are a hypocrite because when you temporarily got the power of intelligence, you decided to use it as a parlor trick to shine in front of people
c) you do come across as a flaming moron when you keep pulling the same shit every day

very valid points

[hypnosis]

The topic of discussion is whether or not you support censorship and monitoring

[Barnacle]

so if you are the one who tells people if they are pathetic or not, who is going to tell you that you are a flaming moron?

that has to be me. You are a flaming moron!

ok, coming from you... I can handle that.


a) can't you just focus on the discussion rather than attack Mav personally?
b) you are a hypocrite because when you temporarily got the power of intelligence, you decided to use it as a parlor trick to shine in front of people
c) you do come across as a flaming moron when you keep pulling the same shit every day

1. If a murderer started a thread asking... Murder yae or nae, I murder people for their own good. You honestly think that others would simply say yae or nae ? Obviously people are going to question (a) weather or not the person actually is a murderer (b) his motives and (c) is it right.

2. Perhaps i used it as a parlor trick but as soon as i realised there was a slight possibility the information I was given could had come from hacking, keylogging ect ect, I spoke up and warned people - this is why I am not a hypocrite.

3. You all also come across as morons, defending his suggestions. Are you completely stupid ? he is suggesting he might be monitoring yours and others here internet activity. "for your own good". But pretend you didnt notice that or if you did - ignore it.

PS. Seen you bragging in the cb about you previous post regarding pills or something. I must agree with mandy, it was hilarious. Your a real comedian, but you ruined it when you had to brag about it.

very valid points

Not exactly valid anymore David. But my points are, moron or not.

The topic of discussion is whether or not you support censorship and monitoring


Perhaps you believe that was the original topic but I am lucky enough to be able to read between the lines, again, moron or not.
I wouldn't be the first to go off topic on this thread, Seems mandy and Denise are attacking eachother and you are attacking me for stating my VALID points.

[Darkside]

i shouldn't have been so crude as to call you a flaming moron. What I meant to say is that your actions give away the fact that you are not mentally competent :lol:

you are a stupid hypocrite, you used the information that Mav knew about and then you tried to use it against him. sorry, you are not only a hypocrite but you are a traitor and a hypocrite.

[Angelus]

Moron or not? :laugh: . you are a hypocrite, can you honestly say you wouldn't do what Mav does if you could? if you even knew?

[Barnacle]

i shouldn't have been so crude as to call you a flaming moron. What I meant to say is that your actions give away the fact that you are not mentally competent :lol:

you are a stupid hypocrite, you used the information that Mav knew about and then you tried to use it against him. sorry, you are not only a hypocrite but you are a traitor and a hypocrite.

Perhaps you should look up the definition of hypocrite. Using information against someone doesnt make me a hypocrite.
And I would only be a traitor if i was his friend at the time. Which I was not, perhaps he thought I was.

Again you have completely ignored every point I made and just came out guns blazing, flaming me. That makes you stupid.

[hypnosis]

i don't think you understand the whole idea behind a "topic of discussion". Mav just told us that he was for censoring and monitoring, you jumped the gun and attacked him without any cause

Not being his friend at the time you stabbed him in the back is not a good defense

[Darkside]

you should look up hypocrite.... no you should learn english and then go learn how to be a good human. You are not a hypocrite for using privileged information as a parlor trick.

You are a hypocrite because-
You used the privileged information that was given to you by Mav to make yourself appear superhuman (till now you are just a moron) and then you flame Mav for having such privileged information (performing bona fide hypocrisy).

You are a moron because-
a. you were born
b. you have no idea what the hell you are talking about
c. you can't even hide your jealousy toward Mav for more than 3 days at a time
d. you seem to lack intelligence


more... I could go on

[Angelus]

And I would only be a traitor if i was his friend at the time. Which I was not, perhaps he thought I was.

are we two years old?

[Barnacle]

you should look up hypocrite.... no you should learn english and then go learn how to be a good human. You are not a hypocrite for using privileged information as a parlor trick.

You are a hypocrite because-
You used the privileged information that was given to you by Mav to make yourself appear superhuman (till now you are just a moron) and then you flame Mav for having such privileged information (performing bona fide hypocrisy).

You are a moron because-
a. you were born
b. you have no idea what the hell you are talking about
c. you can't even hide your jealousy toward Mav for more than 3 days at a time
d. you seem to lack intelligence


more... I could go on

LOL, four excellent well thought out points (a,b,c & d) Congrats Einstein.

As stated at the time, i assumed he had this information because he knew them well, as a friend, no thru hacking or whatever he says he doing.
When I realised it actually could have been, i spoke out.

As for calling it privelaged information, thats just hilarious.

As for being jealsous, thats even funnier. I have no need to trick people into liking me, it happens naturally.

When you call me stupid childish names, it makes it look like you have a very small vocabulary and are losing the arguement.

[Darkside]

do you like being the village idiot? who likes you? If Mav wasn't Mav he would tear you the fuck up.

[Barnacle]

do you like being the village idiot? who likes you? If Mav wasn't Mav he would tear you the fuck up.

Wow, so profound. Im not really sure how to respond to this one...hmmm

I'll go with.. yes, people and fuck mav.

[Mandy]

Barny, i am afraid your points, if any, have been lost in and amongst the dribble and name calling. you seem (and i admit it is hard to tell) to be contradicting yourself to the point of invalidating each statement you make.

Maverick has stated he believes in censure and monitoring communications. he further states he does such.

you say he does not do it, that he is bluffing. but then you say he did do it and fed you the information and you used it. you say (very innocently) you had no idea where the information came from so you took it and used it to "play" with people (innocent people). further (as evidenced by the alleged communication between Maverick and yourself) did this under his advice, instruction, encouragement and guidance. yet you state, as though you were a child stomping his feet, that the lovely people of this forum are followers and under his guidance. you say that they are blind to the monitoring, yet they have (by virtue of reading and responding) acknowledged it.

then the question of morality... i would deem the morality of it to be moot. it would seem to be unethical, except that he posted it, therefore letting it be known, internet-wise i would think (i took it to be) used as a disclaimer, thereby removing the ethical dilemma.

in reading all of this, it seems that you are against censure and monitoring? correct?

i would ask... is there ever a case it would be ok?

i would love to have a real discussion on topic. that is if you can tear yourself away from the undo fixation you seem to have on Maverick and his alliance. it seems Maverick has answered the questions posed. could you?

M~

[Lucas West]

Barny, i am afraid your points, if any, have been lost in and amongst the dribble and name calling. you seem (and i admit it is hard to tell) to be contradicting yourself to the point of invalidating each statement you make.

Maverick has stated he believes in censure and monitoring communications. he further states he does such.

you say he does not do it, that he is bluffing. but then you say he did do it and fed you the information and you used it. you say (very innocently) you had no idea where the information came from so you took it and used it to "play" with people (innocent people). further (as evidenced by the alleged communication between Maverick and yourself) did this under his advice, instruction, encouragement and guidance. yet you state, as though you were a child stomping his feet, that the lovely people of this forum are followers and under his guidance. you say that they are blind to the monitoring, yet they have (by virtue of reading and responding) acknowledged it.

then the question of morality... i would deem the morality of it to be moot. it would seem to be unethical, except that he posted it, therefore letting it be known, internet-wise i would think (i took it to be) used as a disclaimer, thereby removing the ethical dilemma.

in reading all of this, it seems that you are against censure and monitoring? correct?

i would ask... is there ever a case it would be ok?

i would love to have a real discussion on topic. that is if you can tear yourself away from the undo fixation you seem to have on Maverick and his alliance. it seems Maverick has answered the questions posed. could you?

M~

you just schooled my girlfriend! ;)

[Darkside]

:D I wanted to say so some things but they were sure to hurt you but Mandy seems to have encompassed everything to define your stance very well without being mean at all.

Barnacle, you dumb idiot.

Mandy, very good job.

[Barnacle]

There has been a lot of dribble and name calling from the clones. I appreciate your reply Mandy. You pose several intelligent questions and answers or suggestions and give me a rare opportunity to reply with a glimmer of hope that some intelligent life somewhere will understand what I am saying.. but then, im speaking to Mandy here. I'll do my best to explain honestly.


Barny, i am afraid your points, if any, have been lost in and amongst the dribble and name calling. you seem (and i admit it is hard to tell) to be contradicting yourself to the point of invalidating each statement you make.

I have many points and you know it - i dont appreciate your tone.
It is hard to tell because i am not contradicting myself at all.. I was meerly looking at it from other peoples points of view or as you so often put it.. "using the vernacular ".


you say he does not do it, that he is bluffing. but then you say he did do it and fed you the information and you used it.

Another simple answer to that.. At first I thought it to be true.. now I know its a bluff. The information if any is gathered from internet on the stalking people on the internet, good perception, guesswork and to much free time. Yes he gave me the information, that was never in question... was it ?

you say (very innocently) you had no idea where the information came from so you took it and used it to "play" with people (innocent people).

Thats not true.
I said I thought he had the information because he was a close friend to the people we were playing a joke on (Denise, Colby, Sensation) and whoever else.

as evidenced by the alleged communication between Maverick and yourself) did this under his advice, instruction, encouragement and guidance.

Mandy. I'll quote this one.
"Mav : Tell Colby he looked like a gangster all in black in his suit this morning, he looks like a gangster, where was he going with his sister ?"

So it was fun, Colby obviously didnt know how i knew this. So I asked for some facts on some of mavs other friends.
I didnt realise it was information that mav shouldn't know - not unless he's stalking people, Which is kinda weird; as is censoring peoples internet usage which raises many questions least of which regarding the intentions of the uninvited, unwanted, unnecessary, intruder, and (in my opinion) and pretending to do it raises even more questions.

yet you state, as though you were a child stomping his feet, that the lovely people of this forum are followers and under his guidance.

I have never said that Mandy, never. In your reply ask me what I actually said.

you say that they are blind to the monitoring, yet they have (by virtue of reading and responding) acknowledged it.

They probably know it's a bluff too Mandy.

then the question of morality... i would deem the morality of it to be moot. it would seem to be unethical, except that he posted it, therefore letting it be known, internet-wise i would think (i took it to be) used as a disclaimer, thereby removing the ethical dilemma.

Good for you Mandy. No delimma there eah ?
May I take your attention back to something you said a while ago ?
yet you state, as though you were a child stomping his feet, that the lovely people of this forum are followers and under his guidance.


in reading all of this, it seems that you are against censure and monitoring? correct?

Yes Mandy that's correct. I don't want anyone to read my post, private letters, e-mail, or knowing passwords having my bank account details, credit card details, watching me, gathering information about me ect. In fact feel quite strongly about it. Call me paranoid Mandy but it just doesn't sound .. emm ....whats the word? ....Safe. (politely)



i would ask... is there ever a case it would be ok?


Categorically, NO

i would love to have a real discussion on topic. that is if you can tear yourself away from the undo fixation you seem to have on Maverick and his alliance.

There is no need to discuss this topic further Mandy, you have made it quite clear you are delighted to be monitored by.. lets be honest here.. a stranger (I say stranger because he is strange). And it being a bluff/lie, you dont think thats strange either.
Perhaps it's a kind of fixation, you might think it's strange. But as of yet I have not hacked mavs, my friends, my families or anyones pc, monitored their internet usage or even pretended to, yet :)

Thanks again for giving me this opportunity Mandy :mosking:.

[Mandy]

i will discard the banal ramblings i full well expected to get and get right back on topic. you are against censure and monitoring. you answer that you would never think it is good?

well, i will ask then what about protecting your daughter from the rich colorful language you seem to use? or the explicit materials available at a press of a key or the flip of a switch? would you not protect... censure?

would you not monitor her communications? limit her from the "bad" element as she grows and blossoms into the lovely woman she is sure to be?

would that in fact, be an occasion for monitoring and censure?

the rest of what you wrote is dribble. i am disappointed in your banal response.

Mandy

[Darkside]

whats the proof he gave you the info you dumb idiot?
again you contradict yourself and call it pie! if he is bluffing then you ain't got shit to worry about and if he is not you must be the dumbest person I have ever come across!

now and forever go :fuk: yourself!

[Barnacle]

i will discard the banal ramblings i full well expected to get and get right back on topic. you are against censure and monitoring. you answer that you would never think it is good?

well, i will ask then what about protecting your daughter from the rich colorful language you seem to use? or the explicit materials available at a press of a key or the flip of a switch? would you not protect... censure?

would you not monitor her communications? limit her from the "bad" element as she grows and blossoms into the lovely woman she is sure to be?

would that in fact, be an occasion for monitoring and censure?

the rest of what you wrote is dribble. i am disappointed in your banal response.

Mandy

I am disapointed with your reply also, it is the easy way out.
Of course I will protect - censor my daughter but when she's an adult I will respect her pirvacy as I do my peers, family, people i dont know ect ect

Dribble ? sure.

[Angelus]

I am disapointed with your reply also, it is the easy way out.
Of course I will protect - censor my daughter but when she's an adult I will respect her pirvacy as I do my peers, family, people i dont know ect ect

Dribble ? sure.

try again, this time make sure you have a point

[Darkside]

stop contradicting yourself an stop typing to hear the sound of the keys getting pressed! TRY HARDER!

[Sin Switch]

I am disapointed with your reply also, it is the easy way out.
Of course I will protect - censor my daughter but when she's an adult I will respect her pirvacy as I do my peers, family, people i dont know ect ect

Dribble ? sure.

you like him OR you don't like him ! Don't be such a jealous shit . everyone here knows why you are blabbering ! if you want to argue about censorship do that , you are a staff member so keep that in mind and don't flame members !

[Mandy]

i would ask... is there ever a case it would be ok?



Categorically, NO


...
Of course I will protect - censor my daughter but when she's an adult I will respect her pirvacy as I do my peers, family, people i dont know ect ect


do you see how some could find you contradicting yourself?

[Lucas West]

do you see how some could find you contradicting yourself?

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

[Darkside]

do you see how some could find you contradicting yourself?

clearly the moron is gripping at straws. Be a man and admit that you are making stupid arguments for some reason NOBODY knows ;)

[Angelus]

do you see how some could find you contradicting yourself?

I don't think he has a choice. He is clearly trying to win an argument with no valid points. Trying to make noise and win the argument. Clearly contradicting himself numerous times and then claiming innocence!

[Barnacle]

do you see how some could find you contradicting yourself?

Yes, my apologies.

I meant categorically no for adults.
I meant categorically yes for children

Nitpicking again mandy.

[Angelus]

Major fail. Please try again.

[Darkside]

you badly need a good lesson in proper English. Attempt at rattling Mav Major Failure. Regroup and comeback with some valid points. something like he stole your girl, or he killed someone you love or something instead of these dumb ramblings.

Really try hard but don't die hard!

now and forever go :fuk: yourself

[Angelus]

you badly need a good lesson in proper English. Attempt at rattling Mav Major Failure. Regroup and comeback with some valid points. something like he stole your girl, or he killed someone you love or something instead of this dumb ramblings.

Really try hard but don't die hard!

now and forever go :fuk: yourself

Good advice Darkside.

[Lucas West]

you want to sleep with Mav? I don't think he is in to that!




MAV WINS



* he didn't play :lol:

[Darkside]

you want to sleep with Mav? I don't think he is in to that!




MAV WINS



* he didn't play :lol:

lol, victory!

fight was with a complete moron who I don't think even knows how to spell

[Mandy]

I meant categorically no for adults.
I meant categorically yes for children


Barny,

it is good we are moving into the issue now. you can leave the banal debris out and we could have a wonderful debate.

this brings up a few points:

1) all children? or just you censuring your children?

should all adults attempt to censure the children?

should the decision be the mandate of the parent? or the educational system? the store clerk?

if a movie has content deemed unsuitable for a minor and your child is advanced and accustomed to it... you have previewed it and found it not to go against anything you deem unsuitable... but your government has deemed it so... what would you do?

i find this to be puzzling. it would seem to me, wanting to soothe the child and be the one in control of your own offspring, the urge to allow the child to view the movie would seem to be the imperative. on the other hand, there are rules within your household and within society that are set to ensure the safety and well being of your charge. as an adult, by having this child one has assumed the responsibility to raise it to majority as a productive and indeed happy member of our society. to set the example that rules and laws are to be thwarted at a whim to sate desire would seem to be a dangerous precedent to set.

2) at what criteria do young people become viable members of their adult community? is there an age? a set of tests? a rite of passage?

3) you "categorically"; without exceptions or conditions; absolute; unqualified and unconditionally support censure for children... why do you use unacceptable language on a public forum? why do you bash gays on a public forum? the "joking" you do would seem to be in the off color range also.

it would seem you do not mean "categorically" at all. more like each should fend for themselves and protect their own, and hope they dont do as you do, but as you say. as a society, this would seem harmful. (hating to quote dame HC who was taking it from an african proverb... but...) it takes a community... would seem to have some merit. by having the child, should one not sacrifice and become the role model necessary to instill the value system one claims to fight for?

the animosity you display toward Maverick seems to be the only driving force in your actions. you tend to contradict (lie) saying one second you are not bashing him but any and all that show affinity towards him, then the next showing outward blatant enmity toward him. your contradictions make you seem as though you have no point, just a desire to fight... which is fine, but seems to be why you are not taken seriously. your desire to entertain is admirable, but makes you no more than a court (in fact "his" court) jester. your desire to obfuscate and insult seems more your point than any real issue. if your objective is; to be taken seriously, which i am not at all sure is the case, you might have more success if you change your tact. otherwise, thanks for the humor and the redundant badgering... you are right in saying i would miss it... it is very cute, not at all thought provoking or difficult to get through. like the comic page... not meant as anything but entertainment to those after doing the crosswords.

Barny, in reality, your badgering and spamming of the thread and the chatbox constitutes a definable form of censure. the one and same censure you are "categorically" against. you try, by the trite and excessive spamming (even bringing in your "wife" to add to the lines of dribble) of the box and the thread to suppress others opinions. you belittle all you cant understand, show a lack of education and a severe degree of social ineptitude, and in the end it is censure by volume. if you want to change people, alter behavior, or even be heard... use some of the intelligence you have (as evidenced in your art), or at least speak to your audience... (i am not sure you know that turn of phrase... but to take into consideration the demographic and social temperature of the group with which you speak).

the "chicken" comment is appropre... i will always opt out of your form of censure and spamming for it is beneath me in its entirety. i was not raised to, nor do i have the desire to run about as though i were chicken little crying "the sky is falling" as you do... then sit under that very same sky enjoying its benefits and brightness.

in truth? why are you here if you are such an unhappy sap? is it to save us all from something you are afraid of? get a grip of your fear! face it! learn. you have the right to spam your feelings, as befuddled and trite as they may be... but my right is to turn a deaf ear... you will get no further bite from me.

clone? you do so show your daftness! not at all clever... not at all even an insult... i cant help but wonder at your level of education... or maybe it is the quality? but it does indeed add to your self appointed position of court jester! delightful! you must feel so... (giggle)

[Lucas West]

Barny,

it is good we are moving into the issue now. you can leave the banal debris out and we could have a wonderful debate.

this brings up a few points:

1) all children? or just you censuring your children?

should all adults attempt to censure the children?

should the decision be the mandate of the parent? or the educational system? the store clerk?

if a movie has content deemed unsuitable for a minor and your child is advanced and accustomed to it... you have previewed it and found it not to go against anything you deem unsuitable... but your government has deemed it so... what would you do?

i find this to be puzzling. it would seem to me, wanting to soothe the child and be the one in control of your own offspring, the urge to allow the child to view the movie would seem to be the imperative. on the other hand, there are rules within your household and within society that are set to ensure the safety and well being of your charge. as an adult, by having this child one has assumed the responsibility to raise it to majority as a productive and indeed happy member of our society. to set the example that rules and laws are to be thwarted at a whim to sate desire would seem to be a dangerous precedent to set.

2) at what criteria do young people become viable members of their adult community? is there an age? a set of tests? a rite of passage?

3) you "categorically"; without exceptions or conditions; absolute; unqualified and unconditionally support censure for children... why do you use unacceptable language on a public forum? why do you bash gays on a public forum? the "joking" you do would seem to be in the off color range also.

it would seem you do not mean "categorically" at all. more like each should fend for themselves and protect their own, and hope they dont do as you do, but as you say. as a society, this would seem harmful. (hating to quote dame HC who was taking it from an african proverb... but...) it takes a community... would seem to have some merit. by having the child, should one not sacrifice and become the role model necessary to instill the value system one claims to fight for?

the animosity you display toward Maverick seems to be the only driving force in your actions. you tend to contradict (lie) saying one second you are not bashing him but any and all that show affinity towards him, then the next showing outward blatant enmity toward him. your contradictions make you seem as though you have no point, just a desire to fight... which is fine, but seems to be why you are not taken seriously. your desire to entertain is admirable, but makes you no more than a court (in fact "his" court) jester. your desire to obfuscate and insult seems more your point than any real issue. if your objective is; to be taken seriously, which i am not at all sure is the case, you might have more success if you change your tact. otherwise, thanks for the humor and the redundant badgering... you are right in saying i would miss it... it is very cute, not at all thought provoking or difficult to get through. like the comic page... not meant as anything but entertainment to those after doing the crosswords.

Barny, in reality, your badgering and spamming of the thread and the chatbox constitutes a definable form of censure. the one and same censure you are "categorically" against. you try, by the trite and excessive spamming (even bringing in your "wife" to add to the lines of dribble) of the box and the thread to suppress others opinions. you belittle all you cant understand, show a lack of education and a severe degree of social ineptitude, and in the end it is censure by volume. if you want to change people, alter behavior, or even be heard... use some of the intelligence you have (as evidenced in your art), or at least speak to your audience... (i am not sure you know that turn of phrase... but to take into consideration the demographic and social temperature of the group with which you speak).

the "chicken" comment is appropre... i will always opt out of your form of censure and spamming for it is beneath me in its entirety. i was not raised to, nor do i have the desire to run about as though i were chicken little crying "the sky is falling" as you do... then sit under that very same sky enjoying its benefits and brightness.

in truth? why are you here if you are such an unhappy sap? is it to save us all from something you are afraid of? get a grip of your fear! face it! learn. you have the right to spam your feelings, as befuddled and trite as they may be... but my right is to turn a deaf ear... you will get no further bite from me.

clone? you do so show your daftness! not at all clever... not at all even an insult... i cant help but wonder at your level of education... or maybe it is the quality? but it does indeed add to your self appointed position of court jester! delightful! you must feel so... (giggle)

Couldn't have said it better! Excellent post

[Angelus]

Barny,

it is good we are moving into the issue now. you can leave the banal debris out and we could have a wonderful debate.

this brings up a few points:

1) all children? or just you censuring your children?

should all adults attempt to censure the children?

should the decision be the mandate of the parent? or the educational system? the store clerk?

if a movie has content deemed unsuitable for a minor and your child is advanced and accustomed to it... you have previewed it and found it not to go against anything you deem unsuitable... but your government has deemed it so... what would you do?

i find this to be puzzling. it would seem to me, wanting to soothe the child and be the one in control of your own offspring, the urge to allow the child to view the movie would seem to be the imperative. on the other hand, there are rules within your household and within society that are set to ensure the safety and well being of your charge. as an adult, by having this child one has assumed the responsibility to raise it to majority as a productive and indeed happy member of our society. to set the example that rules and laws are to be thwarted at a whim to sate desire would seem to be a dangerous precedent to set.

2) at what criteria do young people become viable members of their adult community? is there an age? a set of tests? a rite of passage?

3) you "categorically"; without exceptions or conditions; absolute; unqualified and unconditionally support censure for children... why do you use unacceptable language on a public forum? why do you bash gays on a public forum? the "joking" you do would seem to be in the off color range also.

it would seem you do not mean "categorically" at all. more like each should fend for themselves and protect their own, and hope they dont do as you do, but as you say. as a society, this would seem harmful. (hating to quote dame HC who was taking it from an african proverb... but...) it takes a community... would seem to have some merit. by having the child, should one not sacrifice and become the role model necessary to instill the value system one claims to fight for?

the animosity you display toward Maverick seems to be the only driving force in your actions. you tend to contradict (lie) saying one second you are not bashing him but any and all that show affinity towards him, then the next showing outward blatant enmity toward him. your contradictions make you seem as though you have no point, just a desire to fight... which is fine, but seems to be why you are not taken seriously. your desire to entertain is admirable, but makes you no more than a court (in fact "his" court) jester. your desire to obfuscate and insult seems more your point than any real issue. if your objective is; to be taken seriously, which i am not at all sure is the case, you might have more success if you change your tact. otherwise, thanks for the humor and the redundant badgering... you are right in saying i would miss it... it is very cute, not at all thought provoking or difficult to get through. like the comic page... not meant as anything but entertainment to those after doing the crosswords.

Barny, in reality, your badgering and spamming of the thread and the chatbox constitutes a definable form of censure. the one and same censure you are "categorically" against. you try, by the trite and excessive spamming (even bringing in your "wife" to add to the lines of dribble) of the box and the thread to suppress others opinions. you belittle all you cant understand, show a lack of education and a severe degree of social ineptitude, and in the end it is censure by volume. if you want to change people, alter behavior, or even be heard... use some of the intelligence you have (as evidenced in your art), or at least speak to your audience... (i am not sure you know that turn of phrase... but to take into consideration the demographic and social temperature of the group with which you speak).

the "chicken" comment is appropriate... i will always opt out of your form of censure and spamming for it is beneath me in its entirety. i was not raised to, nor do i have the desire to run about as though i were chicken little crying "the sky is falling" as you do... then sit under that very same sky enjoying its benefits and brightness.

in truth? why are you here if you are such an unhappy sap? is it to save us all from something you are afraid of? get a grip of your fear! face it! learn. you have the right to spam your feelings, as befuddled and trite as they may be... but my right is to turn a deaf ear... you will get no further bite from me.

clone? you do so show your daftness! not at all clever... not at all even an insult... i cant help but wonder at your level of education... or maybe it is the quality? but it does indeed add to your self appointed position of court jester! delightful! you must feel so... (giggle)

clearly we all see what you are trying to do. You have the choice to enjoy and be a good member of the community but you choose to be a jealous prick and even go further by masking your jealousy and claiming some greater good is going to come of your actions!

Only people who hate Mav are the jealous ones, I know this because I have known him for a long time and its impossible not to like him as long as you are not jealous.

Betraying his minimal trust in you and then justifying yourself furthers everyone's opinion that you are looking for some attention and are trying to get it at the expensive of someone who is kind, sweet and caring.

[Talisa]

Censorship is a power you should use carefully.